Do You Live In A Bubble ?…………………………….PUCC; People UN CLEAR On The Concept

Do You Live In A Bubble ?…………………………….PUCC; People UN CLEAR On The Concept

Some people don’t think their decisions and home reno choices have any significant consequences. If so you might be living in a bubble.

Honey? Where should we put the electrical panel?  I don’t know dear, why don’t we put the walkin closet next to the stairs. It’s closer to the bed room.

But hon, that’ll leave the electrical panel in the bathroom.  Yes dear?

But hon it  probably should not . Dear I want it by the bedroom and there’s enough static in the clothes as it is.

OK………

 

So we get this;

Behind this pair of surface mounted doors we find this; a hanging curtain of bubble wrap.

I doubt very much whether this material is perm rated but even if we generously assume it to be the same as 6 mil polly, it still is not an effective vapour barrier.

Why not?

Its a curtain. It’s just hanging there so it can’t be taped and continuously sealed to the wall vapour barrier.

This is where people are unclear on the concept of controling vapour movement within the home.

So far this panel shows no humidity damage but that can change. The exhaust fan seen in the ceiling is there for the shower/tub humidity. If people stop using it or it becomes blocked them humid cconditions are going to up the hazard risk from the panel.

It should be obvious but it isn’t.  Can you see electricity. NO.  Can you see humidity. Ditto – NO.

So it may not be as clear to those not conversant with the concepts but your inspector will understand the importance.

 

 

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TUB FOBIA! ? A Disconcerting Experience! QUESTION; What’s Your Take On It?

I just had a disconcerting experience. I had a new client asking me the usual questions about the inspection she wanted done next week.

When she asked me about the whirlpool bathtub, I had to tell her it would not be part of my inspection.

I explained the the motor would be damaged if it was run without water in the tub. Filling the tub would take too long to be done in the course of the inspection.  So this is not done.

Some water is run to test the faucets, shower head, etc..  Access to the motor and system piping is checked and inspected for leaks and general condition.

She was satisfied with that answer but wanted to know what she could do to go further.

As an inspector is a generalist, the answer is to engage a specialist. In this case a specialist for a whirlpool tub is a plumber, so I suggested she talk to a plumber. That was ok, but she wanted to know if it was ok for a plumber to be there during the inspection.  For me it was fine but I suggested she let her agent know about it  and have owed and cleared with th sellers.

And that’s where the call ended.

 

THEN I got the call from the agent ” WHAT THE ____ DID YOU TELL MY CLIENT??  SHE’S GONNA NIX THE DEAL!

She, the agent, went on to tell me that the plumber was an alarmist who went on a rant, first about that brand, said it could not be replaced now. He then went on to tell her horror stories about diseases transmitted by these tubs and worked “flesh eating disease” into the rant.

Turns out this buyer is very nervous and phobic in general and this alarmist rant really set her off. I was able to explain to the agent what my involvement had been and I was able to give her the names of several plumbers to get a broader opinion on this ” issue”, if in fact there is one.

The agent wants to salvage the deal, naturally and wants a plumbers price to seal off the “whirlpool” jets, effectively converting it to a normal tub. And will pay for it if is affordable and will close the deal.

 

I’ve since spoken to a plumber about this. He says there are lots of stories going around but few facts. The cleaning maintenance is very easy to do. Basically you run the tub through a full program cycle using only hot water and baking soda. You’d do this every few months depending on frequency off use.

That doesn’t sound too complicated or difficult door anyone to do. So I wouldn’t recommend the ‘sealing of the jets’ option, but that’s not my call or decision.

 

My question to you is:

Have you heard of disease problems associated with these tubs?

1 – Have you heard of disease problems associated with these tubs?

and

2 – What would your response be in this situation as an inspector?…an an agent? … Or as a buyer / seller?

Your thought?

 

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